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it was basically a cube with inside of

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so this isn't anything that just is

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limited to the united states it's a

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hi everyone and welcome back to that ufo

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podcast delighted to see i'm being

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joined not by a guest this time but dan

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is back from columbia i think it's

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almost a month to the day since we

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recorded so dan welcome back

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it's uh it's nice to be back it was an

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amazing adventure and just before we say

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anything about it i just want to say

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thank you to all the listeners who

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contributed to help send me it was

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beautiful and

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it felt right that i'd been sent there

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to experience such a it was very

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spiritual and i'll kind of explain when

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we do the longer form things but yeah it

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was a blessing thank you thank you thank

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back dan it's been a strange old month i

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pod that the tech issues i had probably

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came at a good slash awful time because

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i was slightly ahead anyway with

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interviews and they were uploaded

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already if people saw how i recorded the

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diana pacilica interview it was on a

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really really old laptop that uh almost

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died with the amount of i was using

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every single port on the laptop for

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we managed to get it done and i don't

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i mean there's a lot to talk about a lot

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has happened in the world let alone uh

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i'm saying world and people were

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commenting on that a lot has happened

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willie have been away obviously but in

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including the last couple of days worth

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of news as well

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first up dan your time away we're going

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to cover when the time's right on the

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everything as well um i don't think it's

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that you guys it's a tv or it's a

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documentary it's a production you've had

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to sign ndas that's not anything to do

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production like that isn't it yeah yeah

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the the way we treated all the stuff

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documentary and then we can just fully

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the dance diary stuff and i got most of

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them out and then it died one day didn't

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the time online as well thanks to

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everyone who supports the pod because

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got the the setup back as quickly as i

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did and uh my wife very much appreciates

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it as well so so thank you very much

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folks um dan when can we expect the

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trailer for phenomenology

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i would expect the trailer asap um i've

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level to kind of say hey maybe try this

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anyway folks but i'm looking forward to

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on that soon you can subscribe to the

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phenomenology youtube channel uh we'll

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dot com dodgy accent again that's got a

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don't go into it hoping for it's going

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like confirmation or backup for that

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confirmation lew was speaking about that

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science being involved with them as well

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like you see it's no longer that found

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footage or here's some clips of ufos

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what we've got is scientists and data

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being presented to people as well

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because i think the demands of what

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people want from these types of of

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features has increased so much

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and the bar with like the the phenomenon

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with james fox was set so high that

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there's not much point in making

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anything else that's that's not going to

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try and at least adhere to that sort of

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standard safe to say the uh

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phenomenology set in colombia

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is quite uh a focus on a specific

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phenomenon in a specific area

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so you don't expect that huge huge huge

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budget that maybe other documentaries

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may have or have had in traveling around

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the world but like james fox with the

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virginia case you're going to get a

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great look at one particular area the

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people involved the human side of it but

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also now the science involved in it as

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well and like you say the production

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values are at least a minimum you would

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expect now going forward yeah definitely

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i mean you know it's no secret that an

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iphone can shoot 4k video now in you

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know prores video that's about as

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professional as you can get um you know

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those those codecs are used on film sets

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actual film sets and tv shows now you

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know the way that they used to use

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gopros the phone is just versatile it's

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light it's cheap but you know you can

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just so the

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like you said the the bar for great

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production is a lot more accessible or a

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lot more a lot easier to jump over these

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days um yeah let me ask dan but with

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those uh high-res phones that we have

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now why have we still not got a decent

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picture of a ufo

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i'm joking i'm joking just i mean i was

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gonna answer you i'll give you an answer

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basically the phones are there to shoot

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people in front of you the phone cameras

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and that's what they're optimized for

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not shooting things very far away and i

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think samsung and huawei have some

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really cool kind of periscope lenses

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that we get those zooms on um apple are

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a little ways away from it but

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i think it's coming we're kind of

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hitting those special use cases now you

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know they're very good general cameras

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but in terms of specialists zoom in

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close up um

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you know we've got some ways to go

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there's even a phone that has a flea

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camera on it and you can kind of cycle

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through the modes but it's an android

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one and it's not made by any reputable

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manufacturer but it just goes to show

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how accessible these technologies are

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becoming

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yeah so there you go folks listen let's

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move on then lots to still talk about uh

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louise elizondo has a new media run he

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doesn't just pop up now and again he

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tends to do these things in a cluster um

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he's already appeared on christina gomez

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he has already appeared with

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vinnie from disclosure team uh he was

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also on michonne cahill on that one and

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yeah that was a a pinch me moment and

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yeah it was upsetting for some people

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you know

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it was like ordering like a really nice

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steak and someone coming out with a

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really poor salad on the side but making

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it yeah how dare you speak about cahill

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like that

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oh sean

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but yeah it was uh i've not managed to

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catch all up on all these shows yet i've

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actually got because lou is of course

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coming on uh with ourselves in a couple

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of weeks um i've kept them all for when

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i'm getting ready to research and write

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that interview and i'll go through as

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many interviews as i can to make sure as

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usual folks we don't repeat stuff and we

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make it fresh and everything else that

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goes along with that as well but how was

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that dan was so much uh

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of interest as such which i'm sure there

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was yeah i i really enjoyed it you know

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sean came on uh sean cahill came on to

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uh that ufo podcast discord uh which is

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accessible for for patreon members and

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he did a bit of a q a that turned into a

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video chat with the audience which was

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amazing and during a nice chaos yeah

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organized chaos and uh and he he said

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that

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should be asked and we should kind of

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be interested in the answer and the

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question was what it means to be human

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and we had the opportunity to ask lou

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and sean that question during the chat

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on disclosure team vinnie's channel so

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i'd recommend people go and have a

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listen to the answers of those because

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they're very insightful and and both

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sean and lou are very um

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well we'll say kind of spiritual john

393
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morso uh very very humanist and a

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a chaotic time in the world like this

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it's nice to hear such positive words

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about what it is to be human

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why do you think lou is doing this run

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now dan through these various podcasts

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and outlets because

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again

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i don't think he's just decided that you

402
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know i fancy doing some podcasts over

403
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the next few weeks and taking up several

404
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hours of my day each day to to go

405
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through those as much as uh it goes on

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podcasts big and small which is which is

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great for for loads of different people

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to cover their platforms and speak to

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lou and have their kind of voice heard

410
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but why now are we getting ramped up for

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something something new potentially

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possibly i i think there's also an

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aspect of

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since the last time lou did a round of

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interviews there's been a lot more

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interest in the subject and there's

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going to be people kind of coming in and

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catching up and it gives those people an

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opportunity to ask some questions um and

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get some new information because new

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people means new angles means new

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questions and and some of them pick up

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on things that we we haven't you know us

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that are in every day

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simply

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neglected to ask almost um so yeah it's

427
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really great that he does this to to get

428
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those extra angles

429
00:14:38,550 --> 00:14:36,480
i've had some great listener questions

430
00:14:40,550 --> 00:14:38,560
sent over already for lou um but like i

431
00:14:42,069 --> 00:14:40,560
say i would rather hold off lou was very

432
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kind to say that the interview was meant

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to be last week

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but

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it offered that if i waited a few weeks

436
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it could give me more time which i'm

437
00:14:51,509 --> 00:14:50,160
always happy to i'll wait a couple of

438
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weeks for an extra 10 minutes let alone

439
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an extra half hour so

440
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yeah keep the questions coming in folks

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00:14:58,550 --> 00:14:56,399
as much as i can i'll build them into

442
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the body of the interview and ask what i

443
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can but as always time is limited so so

444
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thanks very much for for sending those

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over but i look forward to speaking to

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lou in a couple of weeks time

447
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dan next up this is one that you put

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down yourself robert p storch president

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biden's nominee for the dod

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ig um

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pressed by senator gillibrand or

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gillibrand about uaps this was the

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a few weeks ago now wasn't it yeah this

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happened while i was out in colombia uh

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robert p storch is yeah biden's nominee

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as you said for inspector general of the

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department of defense um we know that

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the ig is investigating the dod's

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handling of uap

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at the moment uh so it was great to see

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senator gillibrand bring it up and ask

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how familiar he was with the issue um

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basically he uh he confirmed that he's

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not very familiar but said that if he

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was confirmed he'll follow through with

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current efforts involving the

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comprehensive assessment of the subject

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um

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and then gillibrand really held his feet

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to the fire and basically said you know

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make sure you do kind of thing um

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to speak we'll say yeah it was like a

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teacher scalding another teacher in

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school and uh you know one of the more

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respected teachers because he didn't

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seem too fussed did he even when it was

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almost he wanted to make sure it was a

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throwaway comment and a throwaway answer

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and she she didn't let that happen and

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like you say she very much

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stamped her authority and let him know

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that you know

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you've got to do this i'm telling you to

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do it so make sure you do otherwise

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your your nomination's under threat

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which was which was really interesting

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and again i'm sure that that's done in

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so many other aspects of the

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conversation and so many more questions

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are asked that we don't have an interest

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in or don't see

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but it was great it was done under the

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guise and premise talking about ufos and

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uap where no no we're taking this

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seriously now so get yourself up to

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speed which was great to see and i think

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there was a lot of conversation i had at

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the time online on twitter the videos

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were being shared by everyone and

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the comments and the clips and yeah it

501
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was it was great to see it was nice to

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see him squirming

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yeah yeah they're always nice to see

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official squirming because of uap uh the

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the cherry on that one of course being

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biden when he tried to run away from the

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podium and got all tangled up in wires

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yeah president byron's not had a great

509
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couple of days it looks like from

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reading the not to get political and i

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get loads of folk getting in touch who

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are on the right or on the left in the

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us politics i don't particularly care

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either way like it's it's they'll they

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all kind of do the same thing but you

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know right right here i'm just going to

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interject and saying in colombia we

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there were some conversations some of

519
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the people there were on very opposite

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sides of the aisle in terms of

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political allegiances or taste you know

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however you want to preferences well say

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political preferences um and we managed

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to you know there were five six seven of

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us and we all managed to put all that

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stuff aside to solve the case and all of

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us had very permanent quite pertinent

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questions in terms of solving these

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things so it didn't matter what side of

530
00:17:52,470 --> 00:17:50,480
the eye they were from you know they

531
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helped the case um

532
00:17:56,950 --> 00:17:54,720
just a little small microcosm of example

533
00:17:58,789 --> 00:17:56,960
of what you were just saying basically

534
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absolutely and again politics aside

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00:18:03,190 --> 00:18:00,960
folks you know

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these are the people republican democrat

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whatever you are wherever you're based

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in different countries that are going to

539
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potentially be working on this topic and

540
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we're just looking for for progress so

541
00:18:14,470 --> 00:18:12,720
that's it and again the politics aside

542
00:18:15,830 --> 00:18:14,480
some of these people vote for some nasty

543
00:18:17,990 --> 00:18:15,840
things and some awkward things and

544
00:18:19,669 --> 00:18:18,000
horrible things in their time but from a

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00:18:21,669 --> 00:18:19,679
ufo point of view that's what we focus

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on and that's what we know espec i don't

547
00:18:25,190 --> 00:18:23,280
know enough about uk politics let alone

548
00:18:27,830 --> 00:18:25,200
us so you have to let me off with that

549
00:18:28,950 --> 00:18:27,840
one and if not

550
00:18:30,070 --> 00:18:28,960
i don't know i can't really see much

551
00:18:31,350 --> 00:18:30,080
more

552
00:18:33,270 --> 00:18:31,360
people are going to be like ruffle

553
00:18:35,430 --> 00:18:33,280
copter look it up it's very yeah you

554
00:18:36,549 --> 00:18:35,440
just aged yourself tremendously yeah

555
00:18:38,230 --> 00:18:36,559
very early

556
00:18:40,710 --> 00:18:38,240
yeah oh maybe even slightly later than

557
00:18:42,070 --> 00:18:40,720
90s but yeah early 2000s at most

558
00:18:44,390 --> 00:18:42,080
dan next one if you don't mind taking

559
00:18:45,669 --> 00:18:44,400
that for me sec nav for your uap because

560
00:18:48,390 --> 00:18:45,679
i've just seen you tweeting about this

561
00:18:49,830 --> 00:18:48,400
today yeah for sure so this was a real

562
00:18:52,310 --> 00:18:49,840
interesting one the

563
00:18:54,870 --> 00:18:52,320
the secretary navy um

564
00:18:57,110 --> 00:18:54,880
foia reading room hosts uh or hosted

565
00:18:59,990 --> 00:18:57,120
those three videos initially uh flea go

566
00:19:01,909 --> 00:19:00,000
fast and gimbal and they've been adding

567
00:19:03,750 --> 00:19:01,919
documents over the course of the last

568
00:19:05,669 --> 00:19:03,760
few years and today a whole bunch more

569
00:19:07,750 --> 00:19:05,679
documents got added about 16 by my

570
00:19:09,590 --> 00:19:07,760
account um i basically wrapped them all

571
00:19:11,110 --> 00:19:09,600
up in a neat file and put them somewhere

572
00:19:12,470 --> 00:19:11,120
for people to download so you can find

573
00:19:15,270 --> 00:19:12,480
my tweet there'll be a link in the

574
00:19:16,470 --> 00:19:15,280
description to that um but

575
00:19:17,830 --> 00:19:16,480
there were a number of things in there

576
00:19:19,590 --> 00:19:17,840
that were interesting

577
00:19:21,430 --> 00:19:19,600
so firstly there was a uap

578
00:19:23,110 --> 00:19:21,440
classification guide

579
00:19:25,190 --> 00:19:23,120
that taught people what they could and

580
00:19:27,190 --> 00:19:25,200
couldn't speak about in terms of uap

581
00:19:29,190 --> 00:19:27,200
which was very interesting there was a

582
00:19:31,909 --> 00:19:29,200
lot of redacted text in it just lots of

583
00:19:33,270 --> 00:19:31,919
black boxes um and

584
00:19:34,789 --> 00:19:33,280
they emphasized that just because

585
00:19:36,870 --> 00:19:34,799
something is unclassified it doesn't

586
00:19:39,430 --> 00:19:36,880
mean it's okay for public release which

587
00:19:41,830 --> 00:19:39,440
of course was a point of debate on the

588
00:19:44,070 --> 00:19:41,840
the i want to say the dd9910 form i

589
00:19:45,190 --> 00:19:44,080
think it was that lululezondo applied

590
00:19:47,510 --> 00:19:45,200
for the

591
00:19:48,390 --> 00:19:47,520
those three videos to be released under

592
00:19:50,230 --> 00:19:48,400
um

593
00:19:52,630 --> 00:19:50,240
it was unclassified but you know they're

594
00:19:54,150 --> 00:19:52,640
kind of making the distinction now um it

595
00:19:55,750 --> 00:19:54,160
doesn't make a point on that because i

596
00:19:57,590 --> 00:19:55,760
think i've brought this up before but

597
00:19:59,270 --> 00:19:57,600
and it happens from time to time in

598
00:20:01,350 --> 00:19:59,280
conversation there are so many reasons

599
00:20:03,350 --> 00:20:01,360
like you say why something

600
00:20:05,590 --> 00:20:03,360
can't be declassified or at least even

601
00:20:07,190 --> 00:20:05,600
given to public for consumption and

602
00:20:09,430 --> 00:20:07,200
that's not always just to do with the

603
00:20:12,070 --> 00:20:09,440
technology for example i've used this

604
00:20:13,669 --> 00:20:12,080
and there will be so much more but just

605
00:20:15,110 --> 00:20:13,679
that for example where the pictures may

606
00:20:17,029 --> 00:20:15,120
be taken

607
00:20:19,830 --> 00:20:17,039
it could be that

608
00:20:21,990 --> 00:20:19,840
let's use a really current example it

609
00:20:24,070 --> 00:20:22,000
could be that it would be the u.s over

610
00:20:25,669 --> 00:20:24,080
russia for example and they just

611
00:20:27,029 --> 00:20:25,679
happened to be in an area where they

612
00:20:29,590 --> 00:20:27,039
shouldn't be

613
00:20:31,430 --> 00:20:29,600
but there was a uap or ufo incursion

614
00:20:33,190 --> 00:20:31,440
they took a photograph so from a

615
00:20:34,710 --> 00:20:33,200
classified point of view they can see

616
00:20:35,909 --> 00:20:34,720
where it is and it might be a camera

617
00:20:37,590 --> 00:20:35,919
phone

618
00:20:39,669 --> 00:20:37,600
or it might be tech or a video that we

619
00:20:42,070 --> 00:20:39,679
think shows the video but actually where

620
00:20:43,909 --> 00:20:42,080
the video or picture was taken

621
00:20:45,590 --> 00:20:43,919
is the classified portion of it and not

622
00:20:47,350 --> 00:20:45,600
even necessarily the fact it's a ufo in

623
00:20:49,190 --> 00:20:47,360
the background yeah so there's all these

624
00:20:51,590 --> 00:20:49,200
kinds of reasons which is rubbish i'm

625
00:20:53,270 --> 00:20:51,600
not saying i stick up for that and i'm

626
00:20:55,669 --> 00:20:53,280
all for that i want to see whatever we

627
00:20:57,110 --> 00:20:55,679
need to see but that's even the kind of

628
00:20:59,270 --> 00:20:57,120
stuff that people don't necessarily

629
00:21:01,270 --> 00:20:59,280
think about and until i was told about

630
00:21:02,710 --> 00:21:01,280
it i was like ah right okay so there's

631
00:21:04,710 --> 00:21:02,720
something else i'd never even considered

632
00:21:06,070 --> 00:21:04,720
before yeah yeah you're absolutely right

633
00:21:08,390 --> 00:21:06,080
they mentioned that here actually that

634
00:21:10,549 --> 00:21:08,400
basically the the classification default

635
00:21:12,789 --> 00:21:10,559
for something is

636
00:21:15,190 --> 00:21:12,799
akin to the most classified thing in

637
00:21:16,710 --> 00:21:15,200
that setting or picture so like you say

638
00:21:18,870 --> 00:21:16,720
if they were in a location that they

639
00:21:21,110 --> 00:21:18,880
weren't meant to be everything would be

640
00:21:22,390 --> 00:21:21,120
classified because of that location even

641
00:21:24,390 --> 00:21:22,400
if you took a picture on your camera

642
00:21:25,430 --> 00:21:24,400
phone of a black square you just

643
00:21:26,630 --> 00:21:25,440
wouldn't be allowed to share it because

644
00:21:29,190 --> 00:21:26,640
of the location

645
00:21:30,789 --> 00:21:29,200
um so yeah they certainly tend to over

646
00:21:33,029 --> 00:21:30,799
classify things

647
00:21:35,190 --> 00:21:33,039
by default and then work backwards from

648
00:21:36,789 --> 00:21:35,200
there which i think has come up as an

649
00:21:39,110 --> 00:21:36,799
issue for a lot of politicians in

650
00:21:41,909 --> 00:21:39,120
america that the dod are kind of over

651
00:21:44,870 --> 00:21:41,919
extending that those classifications

652
00:21:46,470 --> 00:21:44,880
um they define uh an identified aerial

653
00:21:48,470 --> 00:21:46,480
phenomena as basically any aerial

654
00:21:50,710 --> 00:21:48,480
phenomena that can't be immediately

655
00:21:53,750 --> 00:21:50,720
identified which is like a nice broad

656
00:21:55,750 --> 00:21:53,760
swath of things um and there's a really

657
00:21:57,270 --> 00:21:55,760
interesting table in the document that

658
00:21:59,669 --> 00:21:57,280
labels what's classified what's

659
00:22:01,830 --> 00:21:59,679
unclassified with regards to uap

660
00:22:03,830 --> 00:22:01,840
in terms of unclassified there were five

661
00:22:05,350 --> 00:22:03,840
five or six things specified so they're

662
00:22:06,390 --> 00:22:05,360
allowed to talk about the terms and what

663
00:22:07,590 --> 00:22:06,400
it means

664
00:22:09,590 --> 00:22:07,600
they're allowed to talk about the

665
00:22:11,190 --> 00:22:09,600
witnesses and the systems uh picking up

666
00:22:13,029 --> 00:22:11,200
uap but they're not allowed to specify

667
00:22:14,470 --> 00:22:13,039
the time and place

668
00:22:16,549 --> 00:22:14,480
they're allowed to specify there's an

669
00:22:18,710 --> 00:22:16,559
increase in frequency in recent years

670
00:22:20,470 --> 00:22:18,720
without again when where how who you

671
00:22:21,830 --> 00:22:20,480
know so on so forth

672
00:22:23,350 --> 00:22:21,840
they're allowed to talk about the fact

673
00:22:25,270 --> 00:22:23,360
there's a navy effort to gain insight

674
00:22:27,430 --> 00:22:25,280
into the nature origins capabilities

675
00:22:30,149 --> 00:22:27,440
performance signatures and operations of

676
00:22:31,909 --> 00:22:30,159
the uap again not allowed to specify

677
00:22:33,110 --> 00:22:31,919
exactly what those things are

678
00:22:34,310 --> 00:22:33,120
they're allowed to talk about the task

679
00:22:39,510 --> 00:22:34,320
force

680
00:22:40,789 --> 00:22:39,520
and then just below that in the table

681
00:22:42,710 --> 00:22:40,799
there's a whole section labeled

682
00:22:44,710 --> 00:22:42,720
intelligence collection exploitation

683
00:22:45,909 --> 00:22:44,720
analysis and products

684
00:22:47,430 --> 00:22:45,919
and obviously that's going to be the

685
00:22:49,350 --> 00:22:47,440
interesting stuff and it's all

686
00:22:50,230 --> 00:22:49,360
classified i'm afraid

687
00:22:51,830 --> 00:22:50,240
yep

688
00:22:53,029 --> 00:22:51,840
but i thought it was interesting that it

689
00:22:54,470 --> 00:22:53,039
says that they're not allowed to talk

690
00:22:56,950 --> 00:22:54,480
about the way when

691
00:22:58,870 --> 00:22:56,960
and we have gotten some of the way when

692
00:23:00,390 --> 00:22:58,880
you know through even even in this these

693
00:23:02,149 --> 00:23:00,400
file releases there are some deck logs

694
00:23:04,549 --> 00:23:02,159
that specify the where and when of these

695
00:23:06,630 --> 00:23:04,559
incursions um so i wonder if something

696
00:23:08,630 --> 00:23:06,640
shifted since this document was created

697
00:23:09,909 --> 00:23:08,640
that enables them to to talk a bit more

698
00:23:11,350 --> 00:23:09,919
about that

699
00:23:12,630 --> 00:23:11,360
i think we'll put the links again for

700
00:23:13,990 --> 00:23:12,640
that in the description folks because

701
00:23:15,669 --> 00:23:14,000
dan you've put it all in kind of one

702
00:23:16,870 --> 00:23:15,679
handy place as well haven't you but as

703
00:23:18,710 --> 00:23:16,880
you say we're you're still going through

704
00:23:20,950 --> 00:23:18,720
those and it's that fresh i've not even

705
00:23:22,710 --> 00:23:20,960
had the chance to look at those yet um

706
00:23:25,190 --> 00:23:22,720
something that was a little bit hot hot

707
00:23:27,029 --> 00:23:25,200
off the press and the same sort of topic

708
00:23:30,390 --> 00:23:27,039
where john greenwald has just mentioned

709
00:23:33,270 --> 00:23:30,400
that there were some uh declassified uh

710
00:23:35,510 --> 00:23:33,280
briefings released yeah this was in the

711
00:23:37,029 --> 00:23:35,520
same pile was at the same pace yeah i

712
00:23:38,950 --> 00:23:37,039
wasn't i wasn't too sure i saw it

713
00:23:41,430 --> 00:23:38,960
psychic i think this was the next thing

714
00:23:43,110 --> 00:23:41,440
on my list now right okay yeah so it was

715
00:23:44,549 --> 00:23:43,120
um i saw the kind of tweets coming in as

716
00:23:47,590 --> 00:23:44,559
i was i was doing some stuff and work

717
00:23:49,990 --> 00:23:47,600
and everything else and it seems to show

718
00:23:52,070 --> 00:23:50,000
if i'm right without doing 100 of the

719
00:23:53,510 --> 00:23:52,080
digging yet or even asking you this is

720
00:23:55,510 --> 00:23:53,520
how off the cuff this is folks i'm

721
00:23:57,269 --> 00:23:55,520
putting down on the spot they seem to

722
00:23:59,909 --> 00:23:57,279
have released one of the snoopy teams

723
00:24:02,149 --> 00:23:59,919
actual photographs from one of the drone

724
00:24:03,990 --> 00:24:02,159
incursions over the was it the omaha or

725
00:24:05,990 --> 00:24:04,000
the russell yeah you mean like the the

726
00:24:08,630 --> 00:24:06,000
three three dots essentially on a

727
00:24:10,149 --> 00:24:08,640
portrait photographic image um that's a

728
00:24:12,630 --> 00:24:10,159
flir image i think it is but it just

729
00:24:15,110 --> 00:24:12,640
shows essentially three things in the

730
00:24:16,870 --> 00:24:15,120
air you can't really get any details

731
00:24:18,870 --> 00:24:16,880
there but there's another picture of an

732
00:24:22,149 --> 00:24:18,880
actual drone

733
00:24:23,430 --> 00:24:22,159
like a full-on quadcopter type drone oh

734
00:24:25,269 --> 00:24:23,440
sure yeah

735
00:24:26,549 --> 00:24:25,279
yeah and i take it that's a legit

736
00:24:29,510 --> 00:24:26,559
picture and not just one that's been

737
00:24:30,870 --> 00:24:29,520
used for for demo purposes on there

738
00:24:33,269 --> 00:24:30,880
well the trouble is that a lot of the

739
00:24:35,190 --> 00:24:33,279
captions are are blanked out so you

740
00:24:36,789 --> 00:24:35,200
can't see where they're attributed to

741
00:24:39,430 --> 00:24:36,799
and we're going to use some behind the

742
00:24:40,789 --> 00:24:39,440
scenes magic here dan i'm going to pause

743
00:24:42,230 --> 00:24:40,799
and then we're going to come back and

744
00:24:48,149 --> 00:24:42,240
know the answer as to what it was right

745
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788
00:26:31,830 --> 00:26:30,320
spent several minutes now looking at the

789
00:26:33,750 --> 00:26:31,840
the tweets like i say they came out

790
00:26:34,950 --> 00:26:33,760
about an hour ago on the timeline so we

791
00:26:36,870 --> 00:26:34,960
were still

792
00:26:39,510 --> 00:26:36,880
about about to record basically when we

793
00:26:40,470 --> 00:26:39,520
looked i'm not much further forward than

794
00:26:42,789 --> 00:26:40,480
on

795
00:26:45,110 --> 00:26:42,799
what john's presenting exactly because

796
00:26:46,870 --> 00:26:45,120
at a glance it looks like

797
00:26:49,830 --> 00:26:46,880
well here's the events that we initially

798
00:26:51,350 --> 00:26:49,840
thought were potentially uaps but on the

799
00:26:53,110 --> 00:26:51,360
same slide there's an unclassified

800
00:26:54,070 --> 00:26:53,120
picture of what is like a quadcopter

801
00:26:56,390 --> 00:26:54,080
drone

802
00:26:57,990 --> 00:26:56,400
so it's john getting at that well that's

803
00:26:59,590 --> 00:26:58,000
what the event was because that's the

804
00:27:02,149 --> 00:26:59,600
way it comes across

805
00:27:03,990 --> 00:27:02,159
sure i don't think that's necessarily

806
00:27:06,230 --> 00:27:04,000
the case is it the the context is

807
00:27:08,510 --> 00:27:06,240
important i think in in that tweet the

808
00:27:11,190 --> 00:27:08,520
jumper out we've got the the

809
00:27:12,470 --> 00:27:11,200
dd1910 form that's the one that lou i

810
00:27:14,230 --> 00:27:12,480
got that wrong a second ago i said nine

811
00:27:17,190 --> 00:27:14,240
nine ten but one nine ten uh that's the

812
00:27:19,510 --> 00:27:17,200
one that lou submitted and specified uas

813
00:27:20,389 --> 00:27:19,520
basically on on to to get those out on

814
00:27:21,269 --> 00:27:20,399
the form

815
00:27:23,669 --> 00:27:21,279
um

816
00:27:25,190 --> 00:27:23,679
then you've got another separate email

817
00:27:26,950 --> 00:27:25,200
and then you've got another separate

818
00:27:27,909 --> 00:27:26,960
thing again that is from the release

819
00:27:28,870 --> 00:27:27,919
today

820
00:27:32,470 --> 00:27:28,880
that

821
00:27:34,470 --> 00:27:32,480
together if you read those run of emails

822
00:27:37,350 --> 00:27:34,480
they're talking about draft briefings

823
00:27:39,430 --> 00:27:37,360
and that image pops up um or that slide

824
00:27:41,750 --> 00:27:39,440
pops up as part of that conversation

825
00:27:43,350 --> 00:27:41,760
we can see the contents on the briefing

826
00:27:45,029 --> 00:27:43,360
the october 23rd briefing that's the

827
00:27:47,110 --> 00:27:45,039
only thing that's not redacted in there

828
00:27:48,549 --> 00:27:47,120
and i guess the slide

829
00:27:50,070 --> 00:27:48,559
and the contents have background they

830
00:27:51,909 --> 00:27:50,080
have task force partnership potential

831
00:27:53,750 --> 00:27:51,919
threat fleet and aircrew perceptions

832
00:27:55,909 --> 00:27:53,760
data examples foreign interactions and

833
00:27:57,510 --> 00:27:55,919
addressing the problem i imagine that

834
00:27:59,029 --> 00:27:57,520
this is probably a slide from data

835
00:28:01,590 --> 00:27:59,039
examples

836
00:28:03,590 --> 00:28:01,600
it's just an example of data being

837
00:28:05,110 --> 00:28:03,600
collected

838
00:28:06,870 --> 00:28:05,120
yeah here's what it could be because we

839
00:28:09,110 --> 00:28:06,880
have seen one of these potentially in

840
00:28:10,630 --> 00:28:09,120
the past but i've seen people already in

841
00:28:12,389 --> 00:28:10,640
the comments saying that that type of

842
00:28:14,070 --> 00:28:12,399
drone that's pictured

843
00:28:15,830 --> 00:28:14,080
they've got it themselves and it can't

844
00:28:17,350 --> 00:28:15,840
fly that far out and i think what we're

845
00:28:19,750 --> 00:28:17,360
also missing and we're not going to have

846
00:28:21,669 --> 00:28:19,760
is all that extra data as well isn't it

847
00:28:23,110 --> 00:28:21,679
that yeah exactly

848
00:28:24,149 --> 00:28:23,120
you're going to be able to you know

849
00:28:25,909 --> 00:28:24,159
people getting those briefings we'll

850
00:28:27,750 --> 00:28:25,919
probably be asking you know were there

851
00:28:29,190 --> 00:28:27,760
other data to corroborate this kind of

852
00:28:30,710 --> 00:28:29,200
stuff and

853
00:28:32,310 --> 00:28:30,720
the ones that we can take a picture of

854
00:28:34,310 --> 00:28:32,320
and see that it's a quadcopter they're

855
00:28:35,510 --> 00:28:34,320
not anomalous but i've said this before

856
00:28:37,830 --> 00:28:35,520
you know it's going to be in the same

857
00:28:40,070 --> 00:28:37,840
data pile because it all falls outside

858
00:28:42,310 --> 00:28:40,080
the remit of the current technical

859
00:28:44,310 --> 00:28:42,320
capability that we have um you know

860
00:28:45,669 --> 00:28:44,320
that's broadening so we're starting to

861
00:28:47,029 --> 00:28:45,679
see all these other objects and these

862
00:28:49,909 --> 00:28:47,039
stranger objects that are playing in

863
00:28:51,990 --> 00:28:49,919
those areas possibly even you know using

864
00:28:54,950 --> 00:28:52,000
that hiding in plain sight and

865
00:28:56,310 --> 00:28:54,960
presenting themselves as as anomalous

866
00:28:57,510 --> 00:28:56,320
but like i said before again that

867
00:28:59,830 --> 00:28:57,520
doesn't work unless there's something

868
00:29:01,669 --> 00:28:59,840
actually anomalous to be confused with

869
00:29:03,510 --> 00:29:01,679
sure and again that's not to say folks

870
00:29:06,230 --> 00:29:03,520
that some of these or many of these

871
00:29:07,990 --> 00:29:06,240
incidents aren't some form of drone but

872
00:29:09,510 --> 00:29:08,000
i think and we don't want to go on about

873
00:29:10,789 --> 00:29:09,520
other things going on in the world too

874
00:29:11,750 --> 00:29:10,799
much just now there's plenty of that in

875
00:29:14,549 --> 00:29:11,760
the news

876
00:29:16,630 --> 00:29:14,559
but when you hear about

877
00:29:19,190 --> 00:29:16,640
and we've said it we all say us russia

878
00:29:20,870 --> 00:29:19,200
and china in terms of technology

879
00:29:25,029 --> 00:29:20,880
it certainly seems that the argument

880
00:29:27,350 --> 00:29:25,039
that this could be russian technology is

881
00:29:29,510 --> 00:29:27,360
on the the way down

882
00:29:30,870 --> 00:29:29,520
the pecking order isn't it because

883
00:29:33,750 --> 00:29:30,880
you're looking at

884
00:29:36,310 --> 00:29:33,760
what's happening in ukraine just now

885
00:29:38,149 --> 00:29:36,320
and i doubt that's russian technology

886
00:29:40,070 --> 00:29:38,159
not to say it's not chinese but we've

887
00:29:41,669 --> 00:29:40,080
seen chinese china recently testing a

888
00:29:43,909 --> 00:29:41,679
hypersonic missile that flew around the

889
00:29:46,389 --> 00:29:43,919
earth the us claimed they knew nothing

890
00:29:48,149 --> 00:29:46,399
about i would doubt that again but

891
00:29:50,070 --> 00:29:48,159
yeah it's interesting and i'm sure john

892
00:29:51,909 --> 00:29:50,080
will clear that up more as people ask

893
00:29:53,669 --> 00:29:51,919
questions and i would encourage folks to

894
00:29:55,750 --> 00:29:53,679
to jump on there and john's always more

895
00:29:57,830 --> 00:29:55,760
than happy to answer these and the yeah

896
00:29:59,669 --> 00:29:57,840
and it's a question quest for truth

897
00:30:01,269 --> 00:29:59,679
john is very familiar with a lot of the

898
00:30:03,110 --> 00:30:01,279
acronyms and the way that those

899
00:30:04,549 --> 00:30:03,120
processes work so i'm sure he'll see

900
00:30:06,149 --> 00:30:04,559
some things in the emails either side of

901
00:30:08,070 --> 00:30:06,159
that slide that many other people

902
00:30:09,430 --> 00:30:08,080
wouldn't so yeah maybe maybe i'll bring

903
00:30:10,549 --> 00:30:09,440
him back actually after we record and

904
00:30:12,470 --> 00:30:10,559
just say hey

905
00:30:13,990 --> 00:30:12,480
shed some light on the context of this

906
00:30:15,830 --> 00:30:14,000
yeah andy's an idea can you make it

907
00:30:17,830 --> 00:30:15,840
simple for him

908
00:30:19,590 --> 00:30:17,840
so yeah um again something else that's

909
00:30:21,269 --> 00:30:19,600
dropped in the last day or two uh first

910
00:30:22,389 --> 00:30:21,279
off ryan sprague had teased a little bit

911
00:30:24,470 --> 00:30:22,399
of news

912
00:30:25,669 --> 00:30:24,480
from daniel otis he's written an article

913
00:30:27,269 --> 00:30:25,679
on vice

914
00:30:29,909 --> 00:30:27,279
the canadian government has released

915
00:30:32,710 --> 00:30:29,919
around 20 years worth of ufo sightings

916
00:30:34,630 --> 00:30:32,720
and reports from police officers pilots

917
00:30:36,630 --> 00:30:34,640
civilians um

918
00:30:38,389 --> 00:30:36,640
it's got your your usual mix in there

919
00:30:40,549 --> 00:30:38,399
but there's some really interesting

920
00:30:42,789 --> 00:30:40,559
reports within that too and i think what

921
00:30:44,870 --> 00:30:42,799
i always enjoy is that it's not coming

922
00:30:46,549 --> 00:30:44,880
from the us because we hear so much

923
00:30:49,110 --> 00:30:46,559
about the us and it's great to see other

924
00:30:51,110 --> 00:30:49,120
countries getting involved and being a

925
00:30:53,909 --> 00:30:51,120
little more potentially transparent on

926
00:30:55,110 --> 00:30:53,919
the subject the the name chris rutkowski

927
00:30:57,190 --> 00:30:55,120
is brought up within the body of the

928
00:30:58,710 --> 00:30:57,200
article uh canadian researcher he's

929
00:31:00,710 --> 00:30:58,720
coming on the podcast at the end of

930
00:31:02,070 --> 00:31:00,720
march i'm just waiting in getting a date

931
00:31:03,590 --> 00:31:02,080
for that as well because his new books

932
00:31:06,389 --> 00:31:03,600
coming out uh

933
00:31:07,990 --> 00:31:06,399
canada's ufo is declassified so probably

934
00:31:09,430 --> 00:31:08,000
pretty good timing i believe some of

935
00:31:11,830 --> 00:31:09,440
these reports when i actually dug up

936
00:31:13,029 --> 00:31:11,840
through through chris kowski as well so

937
00:31:14,149 --> 00:31:13,039
uh pretty interesting what were your

938
00:31:16,470 --> 00:31:14,159
thoughts dan

939
00:31:17,750 --> 00:31:16,480
yeah it's amazing both daniel otis and

940
00:31:19,269 --> 00:31:17,760
chris have done some incredible work

941
00:31:20,950 --> 00:31:19,279
over the past few years and it's great

942
00:31:22,549 --> 00:31:20,960
to see them getting some of the the

943
00:31:25,110 --> 00:31:22,559
credit for the work because they they're

944
00:31:28,470 --> 00:31:25,120
truly finding a stack a whole stack of

945
00:31:30,710 --> 00:31:28,480
data that we just didn't know existed um

946
00:31:32,950 --> 00:31:30,720
and and some really interesting events

947
00:31:34,630 --> 00:31:32,960
because they're all well not all but

948
00:31:37,190 --> 00:31:34,640
some are corroborated between multiple

949
00:31:39,350 --> 00:31:37,200
witnesses or multiple senses so again a

950
00:31:40,789 --> 00:31:39,360
really interesting data pile

951
00:31:42,470 --> 00:31:40,799
um on that we'll have to give ryan

952
00:31:45,350 --> 00:31:42,480
sprague a shout out because he has

953
00:31:47,990 --> 00:31:45,360
already had uh daniel otis on his

954
00:31:50,389 --> 00:31:48,000
channel well actually chrissy newton of

955
00:31:52,789 --> 00:31:50,399
the debrief and other podcasts has just

956
00:31:54,710 --> 00:31:52,799
joined somewhere in the skies as ryan's

957
00:31:57,110 --> 00:31:54,720
co-host and she has done the interview i

958
00:31:58,950 --> 00:31:57,120
believe solo with daniel otis you can

959
00:32:00,870 --> 00:31:58,960
check that one out it was on ryan's

960
00:32:03,029 --> 00:32:00,880
patreon early access which i'm a member

961
00:32:04,870 --> 00:32:03,039
of i would encourage and you know what

962
00:32:06,710 --> 00:32:04,880
as a quick aside there's still a lot of

963
00:32:08,630 --> 00:32:06,720
arguing going online on the social media

964
00:32:10,230 --> 00:32:08,640
side of things dan people there's lots

965
00:32:11,669 --> 00:32:10,240
of great content out there support who

966
00:32:13,350 --> 00:32:11,679
you want don't support who you don't

967
00:32:14,950 --> 00:32:13,360
want to you don't have to listen you

968
00:32:16,549 --> 00:32:14,960
don't have to watch you know i

969
00:32:18,950 --> 00:32:16,559
appreciate anyone who listens and checks

970
00:32:20,710 --> 00:32:18,960
this one out um you might not always

971
00:32:22,149 --> 00:32:20,720
like the guests and you know all that

972
00:32:24,230 --> 00:32:22,159
kind of stuff and that goes for anyone's

973
00:32:25,750 --> 00:32:24,240
shows but i think we're just lucky

974
00:32:27,110 --> 00:32:25,760
there's a lot of selection and choice

975
00:32:29,750 --> 00:32:27,120
out there just now from a variety of

976
00:32:31,509 --> 00:32:29,760
people ryan is one of those of course as

977
00:32:33,909 --> 00:32:31,519
well as many others who do a really good

978
00:32:35,909 --> 00:32:33,919
job and i would always say if you can

979
00:32:39,110 --> 00:32:35,919
and you're in a position to support

980
00:32:40,389 --> 00:32:39,120
listen early um early access ad free or

981
00:32:42,470 --> 00:32:40,399
listen on the free feeds which is

982
00:32:44,470 --> 00:32:42,480
equally as important to any of us

983
00:32:46,310 --> 00:32:44,480
creating content as well so so thanks

984
00:32:47,990 --> 00:32:46,320
very much and well done to to ryan and

985
00:32:49,909 --> 00:32:48,000
chrissy getting that interview out there

986
00:32:53,190 --> 00:32:49,919
so quickly as well as the the article

987
00:32:56,710 --> 00:32:55,669
fair enough then yeah yeah absolutely um

988
00:32:58,149 --> 00:32:56,720
i just wanted to say a big

989
00:33:00,470 --> 00:32:58,159
congratulations to chrissy and ryan as

990
00:33:03,029 --> 00:33:00,480
well they make a fantastic team um and

991
00:33:04,549 --> 00:33:03,039
and they're both uh ferocious amount of

992
00:33:06,870 --> 00:33:04,559
passion for this subject so i think

993
00:33:08,389 --> 00:33:06,880
we're we're very lucky to have them yeah

994
00:33:10,310 --> 00:33:08,399
definitely so yeah go and check that one

995
00:33:12,230 --> 00:33:10,320
out folks as well check out the article

996
00:33:13,909 --> 00:33:12,240
and i might reach out to daniel lotus

997
00:33:15,190 --> 00:33:13,919
myself to to get them on to have a chat

998
00:33:16,950 --> 00:33:15,200
through that as well so but yeah i'm

999
00:33:18,870 --> 00:33:16,960
sure again it's on my list i've not

1000
00:33:20,549 --> 00:33:18,880
listened to the full interview yet but

1001
00:33:22,549 --> 00:33:20,559
i've heard clips of it and chrissy does

1002
00:33:25,029 --> 00:33:22,559
a great job within that too

1003
00:33:26,950 --> 00:33:25,039
dan interesting one i saw uh last week

1004
00:33:30,710 --> 00:33:26,960
or two weeks ago being advertised was

1005
00:33:32,630 --> 00:33:30,720
gary mckinnon an ama on reddit now gary

1006
00:33:35,909 --> 00:33:32,640
mckinnon was famously the hacker who

1007
00:33:38,950 --> 00:33:35,919
broke into nasa's systems and allegedly

1008
00:33:40,470 --> 00:33:38,960
found evidence of an at cover-up i have

1009
00:33:42,230 --> 00:33:40,480
tried a couple of times over the last

1010
00:33:44,789 --> 00:33:42,240
year to get gary on the podcast he's

1011
00:33:46,549 --> 00:33:44,799
always been very kind and responded that

1012
00:33:49,590 --> 00:33:46,559
initially he wasn't looking to to do

1013
00:33:51,830 --> 00:33:49,600
interviews um he said potentially next

1014
00:33:54,230 --> 00:33:51,840
year that was very recently so i've put

1015
00:33:56,630 --> 00:33:54,240
that one back in the books folks of 2023

1016
00:33:58,070 --> 00:33:56,640
to get in touch with gary um but he has

1017
00:34:00,549 --> 00:33:58,080
felt comfortable enough to come out and

1018
00:34:03,669 --> 00:34:00,559
do an interview um on unwritten text

1019
00:34:05,509 --> 00:34:03,679
format as part of reddit's ama

1020
00:34:07,110 --> 00:34:05,519
a few highlights for me

1021
00:34:09,109 --> 00:34:07,120
and reading through that folks and again

1022
00:34:11,109 --> 00:34:09,119
we'll put the link in the description um

1023
00:34:13,750 --> 00:34:11,119
he was asked about stephen greer early

1024
00:34:15,750 --> 00:34:13,760
on and he said and i quote i feel that

1025
00:34:18,950 --> 00:34:15,760
anyone who can do that on their own that

1026
00:34:22,149 --> 00:34:18,960
was ce5 without the need to spend a shed

1027
00:34:23,829 --> 00:34:22,159
load of coin um he brings up louis

1028
00:34:26,669 --> 00:34:23,839
elizondo and stephen greer at different

1029
00:34:29,030 --> 00:34:26,679
points he talks about seeing the list of

1030
00:34:30,869 --> 00:34:29,040
non-terrestrial officers now this is i

1031
00:34:32,470 --> 00:34:30,879
suppose one of the biggest claims that

1032
00:34:34,389 --> 00:34:32,480
gary has come out with he got in a lot

1033
00:34:37,829 --> 00:34:34,399
of trouble of course for for doing this

1034
00:34:40,629 --> 00:34:37,839
um with names and ranks of officers when

1035
00:34:41,349 --> 00:34:40,639
he was asked on the the chat then about

1036
00:34:44,790 --> 00:34:41,359
the

1037
00:34:47,349 --> 00:34:44,800
you saw for example bear in mind this

1038
00:34:48,389 --> 00:34:47,359
was done back in the day with a 56k dial

1039
00:34:51,270 --> 00:34:48,399
up modem

1040
00:34:53,430 --> 00:34:51,280
yeah very slow yeah the picture he saw

1041
00:34:55,909 --> 00:34:53,440
and this the information he was getting

1042
00:34:57,349 --> 00:34:55,919
was like taking a long time to download

1043
00:34:58,550 --> 00:34:57,359
it was if you remember the old days

1044
00:35:00,390 --> 00:34:58,560
folks if you're listening to this and

1045
00:35:02,069 --> 00:35:00,400
you're you're younger than 30 you might

1046
00:35:04,230 --> 00:35:02,079
not even know this but there was a time

1047
00:35:07,190 --> 00:35:04,240
when you downloaded a picture and it

1048
00:35:08,870 --> 00:35:07,200
came on the screen line by line almost

1049
00:35:11,030 --> 00:35:08,880
like it was being printed off on your

1050
00:35:13,270 --> 00:35:11,040
screen for you so um

1051
00:35:16,069 --> 00:35:13,280
gary was accessing information that way

1052
00:35:18,150 --> 00:35:16,079
uh via illegal methods we have to say

1053
00:35:19,430 --> 00:35:18,160
hacking and analysis i mean we say

1054
00:35:20,470 --> 00:35:19,440
hacking i'm just going to clear this up

1055
00:35:22,069 --> 00:35:20,480
because i know there's going to be some

1056
00:35:24,630 --> 00:35:22,079
computer people out there going it's not

1057
00:35:27,109 --> 00:35:24,640
hacking it really wasn't hacking uh it

1058
00:35:30,230 --> 00:35:27,119
was basically doing screen sharing um

1059
00:35:32,230 --> 00:35:30,240
and gary gary just used a screen sharing

1060
00:35:33,829 --> 00:35:32,240
app to see the screen he he saw a bunch

1061
00:35:35,670 --> 00:35:33,839
of files and was presented with a choice

1062
00:35:36,950 --> 00:35:35,680
whether to download them or to open it

1063
00:35:39,750 --> 00:35:36,960
right there and then and see if he could

1064
00:35:41,190 --> 00:35:39,760
grab a screenshot or something and uh

1065
00:35:43,430 --> 00:35:41,200
yeah i guess i guess he made the wrong

1066
00:35:45,510 --> 00:35:43,440
choice but i think a lot of us would go

1067
00:35:47,430 --> 00:35:45,520
for the just view it now kind of thing

1068
00:35:49,270 --> 00:35:47,440
yeah but it meant that the image came up

1069
00:35:51,030 --> 00:35:49,280
on screen someone saw that he was

1070
00:35:53,349 --> 00:35:51,040
accessing it and just

1071
00:35:55,030 --> 00:35:53,359
you know disconnected very quickly i

1072
00:35:56,710 --> 00:35:55,040
like how you've cleared up hacking like

1073
00:35:58,550 --> 00:35:56,720
at the end of the first jurassic park

1074
00:36:00,550 --> 00:35:58,560
movie for the ghetto

1075
00:36:02,150 --> 00:36:00,560
and all she does is guess the password

1076
00:36:04,310 --> 00:36:02,160
um yeah

1077
00:36:06,550 --> 00:36:04,320
just uses a normal like a really weird

1078
00:36:08,310 --> 00:36:06,560
layout for a computer as well to go

1079
00:36:10,069 --> 00:36:08,320
between collections of little buildings

1080
00:36:13,510 --> 00:36:10,079
very strange do you know what to be fair

1081
00:36:15,270 --> 00:36:13,520
gary said himself on the on the ama

1082
00:36:16,790 --> 00:36:15,280
that someone said why didn't you just

1083
00:36:19,589 --> 00:36:16,800
take a print out of because he claims to

1084
00:36:21,109 --> 00:36:19,599
have seen a picture of one of these he's

1085
00:36:23,109 --> 00:36:21,119
uh

1086
00:36:26,630 --> 00:36:23,119
it wasn't a tic tac not quite a saucer

1087
00:36:28,870 --> 00:36:26,640
to quote sean cahill um it was a cigar

1088
00:36:30,870 --> 00:36:28,880
shaped almost object with some some

1089
00:36:32,950 --> 00:36:30,880
domes on the top and on the side there's

1090
00:36:35,829 --> 00:36:32,960
a that's right yeah there's a sketch of

1091
00:36:38,630 --> 00:36:35,839
it or a cgi ram rendering of on the ama

1092
00:36:40,230 --> 00:36:38,640
again check out the link folks um he he

1093
00:36:42,390 --> 00:36:40,240
doesn't believe that it's faked he

1094
00:36:43,990 --> 00:36:42,400
believed it was a real picture and he

1095
00:36:45,510 --> 00:36:44,000
believes because he only saw the top

1096
00:36:46,870 --> 00:36:45,520
third of the planet that he's always

1097
00:36:48,069 --> 00:36:46,880
just assumed it was earth it wasn't

1098
00:36:50,230 --> 00:36:48,079
anywhere else

1099
00:36:52,150 --> 00:36:50,240
um someone asked him why didn't you just

1100
00:36:54,150 --> 00:36:52,160
print the screen like you mentioned down

1101
00:36:55,990 --> 00:36:54,160
about print screen and he says at the

1102
00:36:58,630 --> 00:36:56,000
time given what he was doing it was

1103
00:37:00,630 --> 00:36:58,640
pretty tense and when he saw this image

1104
00:37:02,310 --> 00:37:00,640
appear on the screen he was like wow and

1105
00:37:04,630 --> 00:37:02,320
he said he grabbed the desk and just

1106
00:37:06,470 --> 00:37:04,640
like you say your view only he was

1107
00:37:07,750 --> 00:37:06,480
taking it and didn't think to hit print

1108
00:37:09,430 --> 00:37:07,760
screen

1109
00:37:11,030 --> 00:37:09,440
the same reason i think a lot of people

1110
00:37:12,710 --> 00:37:11,040
you know why didn't you take a camera

1111
00:37:13,990 --> 00:37:12,720
and record i don't know i was in or

1112
00:37:15,990 --> 00:37:14,000
seeing something that i thought was from

1113
00:37:17,670 --> 00:37:16,000
another planet maybe and it just took me

1114
00:37:20,069 --> 00:37:17,680
a second to gather my wits and by the

1115
00:37:22,630 --> 00:37:20,079
time that happened it was gone you know

1116
00:37:24,390 --> 00:37:22,640
yeah 100 and he also asked about the the

1117
00:37:26,390 --> 00:37:24,400
list of names does he remember any he

1118
00:37:28,470 --> 00:37:26,400
said some of them seemed a little bit

1119
00:37:30,390 --> 00:37:28,480
polish potentially if that gives you an

1120
00:37:33,750 --> 00:37:30,400
indication of of maybe some of the the

1121
00:37:34,630 --> 00:37:33,760
names of these non-terrestrial officers

1122
00:37:45,430 --> 00:37:34,640
specifically

1123
00:37:48,790 --> 00:37:47,030
the names of these officers apparently

1124
00:37:51,190 --> 00:37:48,800
working in potentially

1125
00:37:53,190 --> 00:37:51,200
secret space ops which again he's asked

1126
00:37:54,790 --> 00:37:53,200
about and he mentions that he does

1127
00:37:57,990 --> 00:37:54,800
believe in his opinion there are secret

1128
00:38:00,630 --> 00:37:58,000
space operations he believes we have uh

1129
00:38:02,630 --> 00:38:00,640
potentially a base on the moon which is

1130
00:38:05,109 --> 00:38:02,640
researching and investigating structures

1131
00:38:07,430 --> 00:38:05,119
up there from perhaps ancient

1132
00:38:09,190 --> 00:38:07,440
civilizations that long since died off

1133
00:38:10,310 --> 00:38:09,200
or moved on from this planet that we

1134
00:38:12,710 --> 00:38:10,320
don't know

1135
00:38:15,190 --> 00:38:12,720
pretty interesting opinion um but i

1136
00:38:17,030 --> 00:38:15,200
think i have to stress he's not he never

1137
00:38:21,589 --> 00:38:17,040
admitted uncovering evidence of that

1138
00:38:21,599 --> 00:38:24,230
yeah

1139
00:38:28,310 --> 00:38:25,990
dan you just shared a channel didn't you

1140
00:38:30,790 --> 00:38:28,320
on um ancient civilizations a really

1141
00:38:32,390 --> 00:38:30,800
good discussion that's right

1142
00:38:34,630 --> 00:38:32,400
i've got to work through

1143
00:38:36,470 --> 00:38:34,640
um can you put a note to put the link in

1144
00:38:37,829 --> 00:38:36,480
the description for that please yeah for

1145
00:38:39,349 --> 00:38:37,839
sure

1146
00:38:41,589 --> 00:38:39,359
we did tweet about it last night but

1147
00:38:43,270 --> 00:38:41,599
again not everyone's on social media so

1148
00:38:44,470 --> 00:38:43,280
it's uh and i appreciate that i think

1149
00:38:45,589 --> 00:38:44,480
we're doing better at getting and

1150
00:38:47,510 --> 00:38:45,599
getting the messages out there to

1151
00:38:49,349 --> 00:38:47,520
everyone and not just those that are on

1152
00:38:51,270 --> 00:38:49,359
twitter and such as well

1153
00:38:53,750 --> 00:38:51,280
yeah for sure so so that that video is

1154
00:38:56,150 --> 00:38:53,760
basically about looking at potential

1155
00:38:58,470 --> 00:38:56,160
past alien civilizations on this planet

1156
00:38:59,990 --> 00:38:58,480
and by alien just being different to us

1157
00:39:02,150 --> 00:39:00,000
um and how that would show up in the

1158
00:39:03,750 --> 00:39:02,160
fossil record it was very interesting

1159
00:39:05,510 --> 00:39:03,760
and basically the

1160
00:39:07,750 --> 00:39:05,520
the learn from it is the right kind of

1161
00:39:09,990 --> 00:39:07,760
natural disaster would leave no trace of

1162
00:39:11,990 --> 00:39:10,000
uh of an advanced civilization in the

1163
00:39:14,150 --> 00:39:12,000
fossil record at all

1164
00:39:16,630 --> 00:39:14,160
they would be reduced to dust and liquid

1165
00:39:19,430 --> 00:39:16,640
yeah basically so

1166
00:39:20,790 --> 00:39:19,440
all of the speculation about the past of

1167
00:39:21,750 --> 00:39:20,800
earth um

1168
00:39:23,270 --> 00:39:21,760
it's

1169
00:39:25,109 --> 00:39:23,280
we we can only get to a certain point

1170
00:39:27,030 --> 00:39:25,119
with actual evidence and after that

1171
00:39:29,750 --> 00:39:27,040
there's a lot of conjecture

1172
00:39:32,310 --> 00:39:29,760
or it could be buried under miles of ice

1173
00:39:36,069 --> 00:39:32,320
somewhere as well essentially

1174
00:39:38,150 --> 00:39:36,079
i hope not you know no too cold

1175
00:39:39,750 --> 00:39:38,160
and a couple a couple of other things i

1176
00:39:42,069 --> 00:39:39,760
thought were pretty interesting on there

1177
00:39:43,589 --> 00:39:42,079
um again he shares his opinion on the

1178
00:39:45,510 --> 00:39:43,599
current open position that the

1179
00:39:46,950 --> 00:39:45,520
government seems to be portraying in

1180
00:39:48,630 --> 00:39:46,960
terms of the discussions we're getting

1181
00:39:52,069 --> 00:39:48,640
with senators getting involved as we've

1182
00:39:53,910 --> 00:39:52,079
talked about and the the uap office and

1183
00:39:57,430 --> 00:39:53,920
he says he believes it's a start of the

1184
00:39:59,750 --> 00:39:57,440
false alien false flag alien invasion

1185
00:40:01,750 --> 00:39:59,760
psyop which again is a pretty out their

1186
00:40:04,230 --> 00:40:01,760
opinion it's one we've discussed not one

1187
00:40:05,430 --> 00:40:04,240
myself or yourself share but i know

1188
00:40:07,910 --> 00:40:05,440
there are people listening to this just

1189
00:40:09,349 --> 00:40:07,920
now who who will see that as an option

1190
00:40:11,990 --> 00:40:09,359
and who knows but

1191
00:40:14,870 --> 00:40:12,000
again interesting take from gary and

1192
00:40:17,190 --> 00:40:14,880
another one he was asked about the nasa

1193
00:40:18,790 --> 00:40:17,200
administrator bill nelson and his

1194
00:40:20,790 --> 00:40:18,800
openness to discuss

1195
00:40:22,150 --> 00:40:20,800
the subject and we've found it quite

1196
00:40:24,230 --> 00:40:22,160
encouraging we've discussed that dan

1197
00:40:26,710 --> 00:40:24,240
haven't we but he said we don't know

1198
00:40:28,069 --> 00:40:26,720
about their intentions e.t so if i was

1199
00:40:30,710 --> 00:40:28,079
in charge i would hide it from the

1200
00:40:32,710 --> 00:40:30,720
public until i knew a lot more many of

1201
00:40:34,950 --> 00:40:32,720
us can easily accept the possibility of

1202
00:40:36,950 --> 00:40:34,960
alien lives many others are actually

1203
00:40:38,550 --> 00:40:36,960
horrified by the possibility it really

1204
00:40:40,630 --> 00:40:38,560
bends their worldview

1205
00:40:42,470 --> 00:40:40,640
so yeah um some interesting opinions on

1206
00:40:44,550 --> 00:40:42,480
there folks i'm not going to lie there's

1207
00:40:46,390 --> 00:40:44,560
a lot on there that gary has answered

1208
00:40:48,790 --> 00:40:46,400
basically saying i don't know i never

1209
00:40:50,150 --> 00:40:48,800
saw i and it's you can get through it

1210
00:40:52,630 --> 00:40:50,160
pretty quick to be honest it's a really

1211
00:40:53,990 --> 00:40:52,640
interesting read um you might not learn

1212
00:40:55,670 --> 00:40:54,000
too much new

1213
00:40:57,349 --> 00:40:55,680
but i think it's interesting having

1214
00:40:59,270 --> 00:40:57,359
someone like gary have that conversation

1215
00:41:00,870 --> 00:40:59,280
again to a newer more up-to-date

1216
00:41:03,030 --> 00:41:00,880
audience especially as something like

1217
00:41:05,589 --> 00:41:03,040
reddit grows and grows and grows with

1218
00:41:07,750 --> 00:41:05,599
younger generations on there as well

1219
00:41:09,589 --> 00:41:07,760
yeah yeah absolutely same as i guess we

1220
00:41:12,230 --> 00:41:09,599
were saying earlier about lou's you know

1221
00:41:13,910 --> 00:41:12,240
new media kind of tour that it's good to

1222
00:41:16,790 --> 00:41:13,920
bring new people this information

1223
00:41:18,950 --> 00:41:16,800
because not everyone knows everything

1224
00:41:20,710 --> 00:41:18,960
that's right but dan and i will still be

1225
00:41:22,630 --> 00:41:20,720
pouring over this interview with lou

1226
00:41:25,109 --> 00:41:22,640
with a fine tooth comb to make sure it's

1227
00:41:27,990 --> 00:41:25,119
as good as it can be as we normally do

1228
00:41:30,470 --> 00:41:28,000
um and last up folks we've got a james

1229
00:41:32,230 --> 00:41:30,480
webb telescope update it's been a month

1230
00:41:34,390 --> 00:41:32,240
a lot has happened in that month i'm

1231
00:41:35,270 --> 00:41:34,400
sure with the telescope dan where are we

1232
00:41:42,069 --> 00:41:35,280
at

1233
00:41:44,390 --> 00:41:42,079
going to be orbiting for for the

1234
00:41:47,030 --> 00:41:44,400
foreseeable future um that's one million

1235
00:41:48,630 --> 00:41:47,040
miles away um

1236
00:41:50,950 --> 00:41:48,640
nice and conveniently

1237
00:41:52,470 --> 00:41:50,960
just just for repeating that number um

1238
00:41:54,309 --> 00:41:52,480
you can actually go on the nasa website

1239
00:41:55,750 --> 00:41:54,319
and track it as it again that's going to

1240
00:41:57,190 --> 00:41:55,760
be in the link we'll put the tracker

1241
00:41:59,030 --> 00:41:57,200
just link there

1242
00:42:00,790 --> 00:41:59,040
at the moment it's aligning all of its

1243
00:42:01,990 --> 00:42:00,800
mirrors basically so it can see and it

1244
00:42:03,430 --> 00:42:02,000
can focus

1245
00:42:06,790 --> 00:42:03,440
there was an image released not too long

1246
00:42:09,430 --> 00:42:06,800
ago of i think there was about 16 stars

1247
00:42:11,670 --> 00:42:09,440
and 84 i believe 18

1248
00:42:13,349 --> 00:42:11,680
so at first glance i i thought they were

1249
00:42:15,030 --> 00:42:13,359
all different stars but upon doing some

1250
00:42:16,470 --> 00:42:15,040
reading we we kind of found out that

1251
00:42:18,630 --> 00:42:16,480
actually the mirrors were all looking at

1252
00:42:20,230 --> 00:42:18,640
one star and taking their own images of

1253
00:42:23,589 --> 00:42:20,240
it and they're going to use that yeah to

1254
00:42:25,750 --> 00:42:23,599
align all of the focus um it it seems a

1255
00:42:27,750 --> 00:42:25,760
lot more

1256
00:42:29,670 --> 00:42:27,760
involved than just kind of you know an

1257
00:42:31,990 --> 00:42:29,680
auto focus on your slr camera or phone

1258
00:42:34,150 --> 00:42:32,000
or something like that um so yeah very

1259
00:42:35,829 --> 00:42:34,160
very soon at the time

1260
00:42:38,309 --> 00:42:35,839
quite a lot of the comments on that the

1261
00:42:39,670 --> 00:42:38,319
official james webb twitter was that it

1262
00:42:41,190 --> 00:42:39,680
looked like a waste of money because

1263
00:42:42,870 --> 00:42:41,200
look at that bloody image but like you

1264
00:42:44,309 --> 00:42:42,880
see there was a reason

1265
00:42:45,829 --> 00:42:44,319
for that and i think i talked about that

1266
00:42:48,630 --> 00:42:45,839
on one of the pods not long ago as well

1267
00:42:50,230 --> 00:42:48,640
that it's calibrating and it's uh like

1268
00:42:52,790 --> 00:42:50,240
you see it's not a quick calibration it

1269
00:42:55,030 --> 00:42:52,800
takes time these objects you know these

1270
00:42:56,870 --> 00:42:55,040
mirrors are aligning themselves way way

1271
00:42:59,829 --> 00:42:56,880
out and as you see a million miles away

1272
00:43:01,910 --> 00:42:59,839
in space and it is literally

1273
00:43:03,750 --> 00:43:01,920
i is it millimeters or even less than

1274
00:43:05,349 --> 00:43:03,760
that they probably move

1275
00:43:06,790 --> 00:43:05,359
you know a lot less than that because

1276
00:43:08,710 --> 00:43:06,800
where you know we're looking at distant

1277
00:43:10,309 --> 00:43:08,720
points of light as opposed to just the

1278
00:43:12,470 --> 00:43:10,319
area in front of us

1279
00:43:14,069 --> 00:43:12,480
um so yeah there's a lot of work that

1280
00:43:16,069 --> 00:43:14,079
goes into this

1281
00:43:17,990 --> 00:43:16,079
and when are we going to get a fully

1282
00:43:20,470 --> 00:43:18,000
functional james webb telescope then but

1283
00:43:23,109 --> 00:43:20,480
at this point well this process takes a

1284
00:43:24,230 --> 00:43:23,119
few months um probably we're looking at

1285
00:43:26,150 --> 00:43:24,240
another like

1286
00:43:27,510 --> 00:43:26,160
six weeks of you know just doing the

1287
00:43:29,349 --> 00:43:27,520
alignments and the correction and stuff

1288
00:43:31,430 --> 00:43:29,359
and then we'll be working as one mirror

1289
00:43:32,550 --> 00:43:31,440
instead of lots of different segments um

1290
00:43:35,430 --> 00:43:32,560
and then we should start getting our

1291
00:43:37,670 --> 00:43:35,440
first uh first images from it

1292
00:43:39,750 --> 00:43:37,680
awesome look forward to that uh dan

1293
00:43:41,750 --> 00:43:39,760
that's pretty much as caught up for the

1294
00:43:43,910 --> 00:43:41,760
month of february and there was a lot to

1295
00:43:46,069 --> 00:43:43,920
go through so uh that was great i did

1296
00:43:47,750 --> 00:43:46,079
mention on the preview pod folks coming

1297
00:43:49,030 --> 00:43:47,760
up the listener call-in dates will be

1298
00:43:51,270 --> 00:43:49,040
announced i'll get those sorted

1299
00:43:52,790 --> 00:43:51,280
hopefully by the weekend for for dates

1300
00:43:54,790 --> 00:43:52,800
next week if you want to call in for the

1301
00:43:57,670 --> 00:43:54,800
listener colin it'll be myself and

1302
00:44:00,630 --> 00:43:57,680
potentially dan on as well email ufo

1303
00:44:02,150 --> 00:44:00,640
uapam gmail.com and let me know you want

1304
00:44:04,470 --> 00:44:02,160
a listener calling slot and i'll get

1305
00:44:06,230 --> 00:44:04,480
those up soon uh if you're looking to

1306
00:44:08,230 --> 00:44:06,240
check out the new interview with diana

1307
00:44:09,670 --> 00:44:08,240
pasalka it's getting lots of really

1308
00:44:11,990 --> 00:44:09,680
great feedback she was brilliant to

1309
00:44:13,510 --> 00:44:12,000
speak to i got that one up nice and

1310
00:44:15,109 --> 00:44:13,520
early because of the tech problems i was

1311
00:44:17,030 --> 00:44:15,119
having and just wanted to make sure if

1312
00:44:18,230 --> 00:44:17,040
anything else did happen that it was

1313
00:44:20,390 --> 00:44:18,240
already out and published so it's

1314
00:44:22,870 --> 00:44:20,400
available on all the paid platforms yeah

1315
00:44:24,710 --> 00:44:22,880
i know behind the paywall however it

1316
00:44:26,710 --> 00:44:24,720
does go on to the free platforms as

1317
00:44:28,870 --> 00:44:26,720
always folks and that'll be on the 7th

1318
00:44:31,670 --> 00:44:28,880
of march so on the 7th of march it'll be

1319
00:44:34,069 --> 00:44:31,680
on patreon apple spotify but if you want

1320
00:44:35,510 --> 00:44:34,079
to spend like 50 pens a dollar whatever

1321
00:44:37,910 --> 00:44:35,520
it might be and get early access you can

1322
00:44:40,470 --> 00:44:37,920
do that now uh you can also check out

1323
00:44:42,470 --> 00:44:40,480
and full on video on youtube as well if

1324
00:44:44,390 --> 00:44:42,480
you sign up to the members lounge and

1325
00:44:45,990 --> 00:44:44,400
the youtube channel is dan's baby so

1326
00:44:48,390 --> 00:44:46,000
you're supporting dan directly if you if

1327
00:44:49,829 --> 00:44:48,400
you sign up on that as well and we do

1328
00:44:51,750 --> 00:44:49,839
our best to kind of keep that running

1329
00:44:53,349 --> 00:44:51,760
and up-to-date and um

1330
00:44:55,190 --> 00:44:53,359
is getting more traction as well which

1331
00:44:56,390 --> 00:44:55,200
is like i said done on the the march

1332
00:44:58,230 --> 00:44:56,400
preview pod

1333
00:45:00,470 --> 00:44:58,240
i love the fact as our subscribers on

1334
00:45:01,670 --> 00:45:00,480
that are going up which is is great and

1335
00:45:03,349 --> 00:45:01,680
we're really hoping we're putting the

1336
00:45:05,910 --> 00:45:03,359
effort and then people appreciate that

1337
00:45:07,589 --> 00:45:05,920
the the views are going up as well so

1338
00:45:09,510 --> 00:45:07,599
it's nice to see that correlation that

1339
00:45:11,190 --> 00:45:09,520
more people are subscribing but you're

1340
00:45:12,790 --> 00:45:11,200
watching as well which makes us think

1341
00:45:14,710 --> 00:45:12,800
we're definitely on the the right track

1342
00:45:16,150 --> 00:45:14,720
with the content we're putting up there

1343
00:45:17,990 --> 00:45:16,160
yeah that's right i actually have a

1344
00:45:19,750 --> 00:45:18,000
question for the audience based on based

1345
00:45:21,670 --> 00:45:19,760
on some of the youtube stats it tells me

1346
00:45:24,309 --> 00:45:21,680
that people generally watch about 20 to

1347
00:45:25,910 --> 00:45:24,319
25 minutes and then switch off so if

1348
00:45:27,270 --> 00:45:25,920
people could just email andy and just

1349
00:45:28,870 --> 00:45:27,280
let him know like should we keep

1350
00:45:31,190 --> 00:45:28,880
everything to 25 minutes and just do

1351
00:45:33,349 --> 00:45:31,200
parts or do you prefer me pouring up as

1352
00:45:35,109 --> 00:45:33,359
one uh just let us know

1353
00:45:36,550 --> 00:45:35,119
cool dan's been starting to dig into

1354
00:45:38,390 --> 00:45:36,560
analytics

1355
00:45:39,829 --> 00:45:38,400
that's why i'm an audio guy i like that

1356
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and hi to the folks watching this on

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youtube but uh i like the old audio

1358
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platforms myself but yeah it's you know

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it's the twitter generation and and

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youtube's a really cool platform as well

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as well as that we're going to record in

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a couple of days the the moon fall

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00:45:55,030 --> 00:45:53,280
review which has a lot of really cool

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themes really interesting themes in

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terms of ancient civilizations what may

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or may not be on the moon stuff we'll

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talk about on this podcast and also much

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more interesting themes than the trailer

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presented i thought

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yes and we're also because we're both

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big movie fans we get to talk about the

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movie itself as well but always bringing

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it back to the the themes that we keep

1374
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the podcast around that's going to be

1375
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one because it's something extra again

1376
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we're doing on top of the the normal

1377
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interviews it will regularly go on to

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the the paid platforms but the first one

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will put out free for people to check

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out as well but again thanks to everyone

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who has supported myself and dan through

1382
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the

1383
00:46:33,510 --> 00:46:31,359
apple spotify and everything else it's

1384
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very much appreciated it's let dan get

1385
00:46:37,510 --> 00:46:35,520
his new macbook um it's your

1386
00:46:39,190 --> 00:46:37,520
crowdfunding's allowed us to get to

1387
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columbia or dan to get to columbia and

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represent the podcast it's like me to

1389
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update all this tech thank you very much

1390
00:46:46,710 --> 00:46:44,800
and if you're just listening to the

1391
00:46:48,550 --> 00:46:46,720
podcast it's it's amazing and getting in

1392
00:46:51,030 --> 00:46:48,560
touch with us is always appreciated as

1393
00:46:52,790 --> 00:46:51,040
well so lots to come this month as well

1394
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as that we've got the part three i'm

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just saying this off the top of my head

1396
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now tom delong we're going to get

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recorded as well

1398
00:47:00,150 --> 00:46:58,480
that may or may not finish off the

1399
00:47:01,670 --> 00:47:00,160
series i don't know yet it just depends

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when we get to writing it there might be

1401
00:47:06,870 --> 00:47:04,319
a part four um yeah it depends how busy

1402
00:47:08,630 --> 00:47:06,880
tom is i guess yeah absolutely uh chris

1403
00:47:10,630 --> 00:47:08,640
ritkovsky should round off the month

1404
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with the louie elizondo show

1405
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in the middle of the month as well

1406
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hopefully and maybe one other guest i'll

1407
00:47:18,790 --> 00:47:16,240
i'll see where the schedules are at just

1408
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now but until next time dan thanks very

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00:47:20,710 --> 00:47:19,599
much

1410
00:47:21,829 --> 00:47:20,720
thank you thank you to everyone for

1411
00:47:25,270 --> 00:47:21,839
listening thank you for sending me to

1412
00:47:27,910 --> 00:47:25,280
colombia just yeah incredible thank you

1413
00:47:29,910 --> 00:47:27,920
i will speak soon folks that is all for

1414
00:47:31,829 --> 00:47:29,920
this week's show thank you very much for

1415
00:47:34,630 --> 00:47:31,839
listening please remember to leave the

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00:47:37,349 --> 00:47:34,640
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00:47:39,510 --> 00:47:37,359
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00:47:41,510 --> 00:47:39,520
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00:47:43,430 --> 00:47:41,520
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1420
00:47:46,069 --> 00:47:43,440
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00:47:48,790 --> 00:47:46,079
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00:47:51,030 --> 00:47:48,800
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1423
00:47:53,829 --> 00:47:51,040
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00:47:57,030 --> 00:47:53,839
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1425
00:47:59,109 --> 00:47:57,040
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1426
00:48:02,220 --> 00:47:59,119
and again folks as always keep looking

1427
00:48:23,190 --> 00:48:02,230
up you never know what you might see

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i don't think he expected me

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[Music]

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00:48:44,400 --> 00:49:00,950
cuz

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00:49:04,549 --> 00:49:02,790
weird and everything was red i helped

1432
00:49:08,340 --> 00:49:04,559
out my boys they thought this was noise

1433
00:49:27,430 --> 00:49:17,580
[Music]

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and what's that

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00:49:43,190 --> 00:49:37,430
[Music]

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your serious

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[Music]

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it wasn't

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[Music]